![]() forces, or was he interfering in a military process that undermines the military's own values and standards?įEAVER: Well, the - to me, the most striking feature of this is the extent to which the president was ignoring what appeared to be the unanimous advice of his senior military and civilian leadership who had recommended a different course of action. R MARTIN: How do you see this? Do you view this as the president, quote, "sticking up" for U.S. And there's never been a president that's going to stick up for them and has like I have, including the fact that we spent two and a half trillion dollars on rebuilding our armed forces. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: What I'm doing is sticking up for our armed forces. R MARTIN: I want to play a clip of what President Trump said about this case yesterday. And so Spencer ended up being without any allies, and under the president's prerogative to fire anyone who serves at his pleasure, Spencer had to go. ![]() And Secretary Esper, his direct boss, thought that Spencer was doing an end run and cutting a side deal with the White House that was different from the united front that the secretary of defense and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley were presenting. President Trump thought he was foot-dragging on - in terms of not implementing what Trump wanted with the Gallagher case. What kind of message does that send to the military?įEAVER: Well, Secretary Spencer was - managed to run afoul of both his bosses. But Spencer was reportedly negotiating a side deal with the White House in which the outcome of this disciplinary proceeding would be predetermined - that he would guarantee to President Trump that Gallagher could keep his SEAL status if the president stayed away. R MARTIN: So we heard Spencer in that clip say that the president's interference sends this message to troops that they can get away with things. Thanks so much for being with us this morning. He's a professor of political science and public policy at Duke University and a former National Security Council official. R MARTIN: We're joined now by Peter Feaver. We have to have good order and discipline. SPENCER: That you can get away with things. RICHARD SPENCER: What message does that send to the troops?ĭAVID MARTIN: Well, what message does it send? Here's what he told David Martin of CBS News about the ramifications of the president's interference. The former Navy secretary is now speaking out. And when Defense Secretary Mark Esper found out, he fired Spencer. ![]() Navy Secretary Spencer tried to quietly strike a deal with the White House that would allow Gallagher to stay a SEAL as long as the president stayed out of the disciplinary process. The Navy had moved to strip Chief Petty Officer Eddie Gallagher of his Navy SEAL status after he was convicted of posing with the corpse of an ISIS fighter in Iraq. The tension between President Trump and ousted Navy Secretary Richard Spencer started over the handling of a war crimes case. ![]() For a president who has gone to war with his own intelligence community and members of his own diplomatic corps, it seemed only a matter of time before he would clash with the military establishment he oversees. ![]()
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